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I agree. Both parties worked issues to continue economic policies for the donor class. Republicans mainly used abortion, Democrats focused on political rights. Business was fine with all these issues or could pick their side if they were true believers, like the pillow guy. Meanwhile they could work the system for the moneybags, like Hoyer for pharmaceutical or Manchin for fossil fuels. I am so tired of having to vote for the lesser evil. The moderates will blame the progressives for moving too far left when I actually believe it was the Centers strategy to go along with social/political issues in order to avoid economic policies for people rather than corporations. Of course, Talking Heads amplify the Centrist message. Wash, rinse repeat. I want the Do-Nothing Democrats to pay, to lose their power, to be voted out. Decades I have waited, worked and hoped for change. I felt so betrayed by Obama. Why won’t the progressives exercise their power for systemic change. The Tea Party did it, why not the Progressives Caucus? Why doesn’t AOC take on Schumer? She could do what Manchin did but for policies that would help people.

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Question: Are you saying your neighbors who support Trump and get their information from Fox News can be persuaded to vote for a Democratic candidate? I lived in Appalachia 2003-2020 and don’t believe that could ever happen. I get your point about Bernie and it’s worth reminding folks that despite running in the Democratic primaries, he was - and remains - an independent.

I used to say we need a progressive minded third party. No. Despite any good intentions, all parties are inherently corruptible. That will not change unless there’s honest campaign finance reform and who knows when we’ll have an honest SCOTUS majority again that will allow it?

The only hope I imagine is true independent candidates winning state house and then U.S. House and Senate seats and, hopefully, the presidency. Gore was robbed in 2000 and I was pissed at Nader voters for making it a close election. But they were right. The major parties were barely indistinguishable once you focused on the core: filthy campaign cash and the influence attached to it. To me, that’s the problem.

It’s also worth noting that if the Democrats in charge in Florida didn’t sign off on those ridiculous “butterfly” ballots, enough confused elderly Democratic voters wouldn’t have mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan rather than Gore. Other than not invading Iraq, you have to wonder what else would have turned out differently.

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