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Diane J's avatar

I've stated this before: The best way to get the point across to the Democrat upper echelons is to sidestep the Democrat organizations completely and give directly to the candidates who are actively espousing change and letting candidates know why or why not you support them.

Look at how the Democrats have tried to tear down Mandami in NY. They've attacked his ethnicity, his religion, his food and even his socialist(progressive) views yet he's exactly what is needed now by the people and his win shows it.

Stop the donations to an organization that has become Republican Lite and support the real Democrats actally running to help the working class

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BUT WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW's avatar

Mandami is the kind of decent human being that America must have!!! I live in Miami Beach and we have a free local trolley for everyone. My mandate is exactly what we all need......keep the U.S. dollar wanted by all worldwide, by having a prosperous economy for all, and have the most liberal, secular & free society that all the world's people's need & want, desperately!!! My podcast is coming soon!!

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Tom High's avatar

Yep. Am making monthly donations to Butch Ware for the next California election for governor, and Kshama Sawant for her congressional race in Washington state.

Until we elect enough representatives who aren’t beholden to monied interests, we will continue to circle the drain.

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Paula B.'s avatar

I'm glad you mentioned Butch Ware because I'd never heard of him. So far my pick for governor has been Katie Porter but I will definitely look at him too.

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Tom High's avatar

Katie was screwed by the Democratic Party. She, and people like her, should leave the party and run as third party or independent candidates.

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Paula B.'s avatar

She really was. I don't know if running as a third-party candidate will help or hurt her. So far, third parties haven't done well in the US. But who knows?

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Tom High's avatar

It’s a tough road, for sure. But if you show your constituents you can’t be bought, and then are screwed by your own party, those constituencies will follow you anywhere. Then it’s just a matter of growing that loyalty into a movement that can win an election.

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Paula B.'s avatar

I think things are changing now and the old rules may not apply anymore. I don't know who all is running for governor but we'll see. I know about Becerra, Porter, and now Ware. I'm sure there will be many others.

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Vivi Survivor's avatar

BS! I have done nothing of what you accuse Democrats of doing. Republicans, on the other hand, adore their racism, envy and jealousy so much they vote against their best interests and trade their kids’ futures for the freedom to express their hate freely. If some Democrats are behaving as you say, it’s not the entire Party and many are thrilled at Zohran Mamdani’s win even tho we don’t live in NY and cannot vote for him. You have no idea what Democrats think, yet to put us all in the same basket and seem to enjoy criticizing us without really knowing who we are and what we think.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

Vivi, instead of just reacting and blaming, how about sharing with us what constructive populist actions you have taken OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRIST, WALL-STREET, SILICON VALLEY Dem establishment? I'd like to hear. Tell us what you think about Zohran Mamdani also :)

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Vivi Survivor's avatar

I don’t have to tell you Jack shit! I don’t know who the hell you think you are policing my right to free speech. Go boss some little children around. Hubris doesn’t impress me.

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Diane J's avatar

I'm talking about the old school Democrats who are too intent on keeping the status quo, not everyday Democrats who want to see more candidates like Mamdani and would want to support and vote for them.

It's the old style Democrats who are doing the attacking, they did it to Bernie Sanders and other progressive and socialist candidates and that's why I donate directly to the candidates, including Mandami, not to the DNC or DLCC or any other large Democrat organization.

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Vivi Survivor's avatar

That’s a problem all of us often have; we don’t say what we mean and expect others to understand what we mean even if we say something different. I’m 73 and a lifelong Democrat. When someone says “the Democrats” I assume they mean Democrats, not some sub group or some of them.

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Peter Roest's avatar

Fascinating—and very depressing. I don’t want to overstate what I just read, but I get the feeling that many Americans hate the reality in which we’re living so much that they’ll destroy everything to get rid of it and replace it with—well, I’m not entirely sure what the country actually wants and not at all sure that it even knows what it wants. What is totally incomprehensible to me is what they think they’re ever going to get out of Donnie to fill that need or why they think he cares about their needs at all.

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Paula B.'s avatar

Yes, they're watching what he's doing and they're still voting for him. That's what confuses me.

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

They need an alternative. That may start with whom they choose for Mayor or County Council, School Board or Governor. Many community groups need to band together to find candidates, VET them and encourge them to be vetted by trusted organizations and citizens goups. Trust and community support, good ideas and policies that are people friendly should get our campaign dollars and volunteers to spread the word. Start now with groups you trust and respect and take it from there.

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Bill Miller's avatar

I suggest both of you reread the article. The point is that large swaths of the population have lost hope and given up that the system as currently configured can deliver any meaningful change for the better (e.g. Chuck Schumer's useless symbolic gestures as the country crumbles around him). Many (most?) MAGAs don't necessarily love Trump; they simply want someone who can blow up a system that has been failing them since the '70s.

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Paula B.'s avatar

I totally agree that many Trump voters aren't MAGA. All I'm saying is that it's obvious that he isn't giving them what they think they want but they're voting for him anyway. That doesn't make sense to me.

I completely agree about Schumer and most of the Democrats though. Isn't it interesting that the non-Republicans that everyone likes the most are Democratic Socialists though: Bernie, AOC, and Mamdani?

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Bill Miller's avatar

Amen to that!

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

"as currently configured" is key to beginning to shape alternatives and people involvement is the best way to reconnect the voting public to make changes they want and need. Schumer needs to lead with another effort to Impeach Trump. That would do more for his reputation and maybe the Dems, too, than anything else.

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Bill Miller's avatar

Well, it's pretty clear (for all the reasons stated in Trent's article), that the establishment Democratic Party is really incapable of delivering on anything that seriously rocks the boat — even as that boat is going down for the third time. (Just look at their opposition to Sanders or Mamdani, in contrast to Schumer’s useless symbolic gestures.)

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Bill Miller's avatar

... I further note that Trump has already been impeached twice to zero effect -- apparently another symbolic gesture. Until he's led away in handcuffs - or aggressively opposed by a critical mass of the electorate, nothing is likely to change.

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Karen Ashikeh LaMantia's avatar

The Impeachment effort is to mobilize the Democratic ( and others that may be Rebulicans or Indepndents) and to inform people of both the harm and the illegality of many of the Trump and Cabinet actions and their after-effects? Impeachment hearing needed for Trump, Vance and Speaker of the House, among others. Not exactly Zero effect, I suspect. People are awaking to the vital need to stop this administration for their own self-interest... a great motivator for change.

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Bill Miller's avatar

Yes, any bold action probably advances the cause. Robert Reich always urges not giving in to hopelessness and cynicism.

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Vivi Survivor's avatar

Wrong! I know exactly what I want and expect from the government. Racism, mass deportations, the destruction of the social safety net, and destroying the dollar on the international level ain’t it and I sure as hell didn’t vote for it. I’m very open about what I want my government to do , but the Dumpf regime has made it extremely clear that what the people want or don’t want doesn’t matter in the slightest particularly compared to what it gives the wealthy and how much it wants to harm the poor with their biggest transfer of money from the poor to the rich in dumpf’s OBBB that many of us call it something altogether different.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

Vivi, have you noticed this really isn't a forum for sharing how much you hate X, Y or Z?

Is what you want for everything to go back in time to the 1980s?

Or do you see Zohran Mamdani as an example and harbinger of a new way forward?

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Vivi Survivor's avatar

Who died and made you the post police? I will post whatever I feel like and if you don’t like it, don’t read it. How arrogant of you!

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BUT WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW's avatar

APOLOGIES.....I meant to say this; Yes we have plenty of Racism, but the majority of Americans are NOT racists. I agree with Corbin.

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Robin Liberte’'s avatar

History has shown us time and time again, when people are hurting, they vote (or revolt) for change. In the case of the USA, the people tried voting for change and got nothing in return. Now, under this regime, it seems like an appropriate time for a revolt.

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Apache's avatar
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Hello Robin.... Bill Clinton, and Obama, were Failures as they did not change the Economic Construct to benefit American Society as a Whole, but rather just fixed, and restored the Failed-Old to Benefit those that Broke-It...

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Marston Gould's avatar

But Apache - tell me exactly how any of the policies of Reagan, George Bush and especially Trump did that?

Since Reagan's policies, Americans have seen a typical wage that does not keep up with inflation as we changes the scales of power between worker and employer. He also began the process of creating huge national debts (contrary to his own personal mythology). The tax cuts that Bush put in place and even more so under Trump have continue to lead to the greatest concentration of wealth in this nation.

In 2025, the top 5% now control a record 67% of the total wealth of this nation while only being responsible for around 15% of the total debt (public and private). The new budget bill that was passed will only accelerate that. The bottom 95% of Americans as a group are. now debtors. Prior to 1980, the bottom 95% has net worth.

Historically that wasn't true in the United States wasn't true until the New Deal when Americans no longer had to toil until employers threw them away with no or meager pensions and no health care. That is the economic pivot point and Americans continued to see increases in net worth - even under Republican administrations like Eisenhower because of the enormous investments in infrastructure.

Obama was the first President since FDR to actually see the net worth of the bottom 95% increase - and most of that was due to the significant and real reduction in citizens not having health insurance.

This big beautiful bill is going to lead to a lower standard of living. Most of that national debt is owned by every day Americans, not the rich. Most of the benefits of the bill go to the top 1% (and certainly the top 5%). It will decimate rural America.

Just wait until a new Fed chairman lowers interest rates and begins to print money to try to make servicing the debt easier - all that's going to lead to is capital flight both foreign and domestic. The world will dump Treasuries and it will force the government to sell T-notes in the double digits to support the continued worsening credit rating. Sure we might see a boost in exports. But it won't matter when your home, your bank account and your retirement plan depreciates. And just wait until private equity gets a hold of your 401k (in the words). Their role the dice 95% loses, 5% winners approach is great for those with too much. money, but it has crushed many pensions.

Americans have no idea what a world is going to be like when Federal services don't exist - and that is in my mind exactly the point. If the Federal government does less and less, American's will blame it more and more and then eventually believe they don't need it at all and will request a new Constitutional convention where your Bill of Rights are simply thrown away.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

Marston, this is pretty good rhetorical support for a theory of class warfare. If new to you, check out David Graeber's meme of the the lower 99% vs. the top 1%. It reamins timely--tho I acknowledge Zohran Mamdani succeeded without promoting any class warfare analysis.

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L. D. Pratt's avatar

Just like with Bernie they will capture those people who then become their clones

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Marston Gould's avatar

So I'm going to disagree.

I disagree based on a life long perspective I've had that consists both of having lived in both heavily Republican and Democratic regions as well as a handful of split ones. It's also guided by watching how the politics of my family - very Republican on one side, very Democratic on the other - have changed over time.

What has really surprised me is how many of my family/friends who once went from having either religious, financial or cultural conservative tendencies have now migrated away from those opinions to ones of blaming 'others' for all their ills: immigrants, working women, socialists, paid troublemaker leftists, George Soros, people of color, LGBTQ+, even people of authority - doctors, scientists, engineers. The gravitate to anyone or opinion that removes any responsibility for their personal situation from themselves and their decisions or like decisions made by others.

As a former NASA engineer this has been very difficult to watch and listen to.

I'm not trying to suggest the issues - which I would summarize as the understanding that by and large, no matter how much effort someone puts into their own lives, the likelihood they can get ahead or even position their children to get ahead in life has evaporated. I also think it is fair to say that Democrats have not really done very much to try to alter this equation in any substantial way - other than perhaps trying to extend health insurance to as many Americans as possible. By and large however, the bargaining and negotiating power in this country has consolidated to a billionaire class. They hire the people who write the laws. They hire the people to create the programs to enrich politicians.

The danger here is that the math simply doesn't work. If we end up as a two class society - while continuing to grow the national deficit, we're going to end up in the untenable situation where there really is no benefit to being an American anymore. That could have huge ramifications.

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Apache's avatar

Nice Post Marston... DJT Benefited From This Populist Anger... Rationally, how did the non-Millionaires that Voted for him in 2024, believe that DJT was going to help them... DJT is a Spoiled, Tantrum-Prone, Nepo Baby... DJT's Zombies can't afford the Admissions Fee to Mar-a-Lago... A Couple of Great Challenges of our Time are Climate-Change, the Recent-Texas Floods are a Harbinger, and the Rise Of The Machines... A.I. will lead to Mass UnEmployment which the Current American System can't Address...

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Marston Gould's avatar

The AI argument is no different than the arguments that have occurred with any great economic transition. I agree that there will be many jobs that will disappear, but many jobs already have. But I also expect that the generation that grows up never having known a world when there wasn't AI will adapt and find new ways to create value and worth in ways we can't even think about today.

For instance, I think one of the biggest challenges the world has faced when it comes to solving climate problems is both the rate of being able understand the problem and the resources available to solve it. When I worked at NASA many years ago, you could have two different researchers both working side by side who had no concept of each others work or how they could help each other.

From my perspective, the main challenge is that culturally, our desire to get ahead has led to discord because its difficult to win a race if we are racing against each other. What's missing is the idea - as the French call it of fraternity. We no longer measure the impact of our decisions and their impact to greater society, we only measure their impact on making us win the race vs. someone else. Personally, I believe this was caused by much lower tax rates on the super wealthy. If there is no cap on how much a small group of individuals can have, then ultimately, they will have everything. Some will say that taxing the rich will reduce innovation, but in reality, most innovation comes from those who have just enough to not have to worry about their daily survival. People who can look around and figure out what common problems are and spend some energy addressing those problems. When we consolidate power and wealth at one end of the scale, we actually cause laziness and force the majority to just worry about daily survival which is what makes them stress out about how our nation is led and puts them into a position to pick someone like DJT.

From 1900-1980 the net worth of the the bottom 95% of Americans - accounting for all assets (public, private, corporate, other) grew - even though the top 5% had significant share of the wealth.

Starting in 1980 those numbers begin to reverse for a large number of policy reasons and now the bottom 95% which you account for their portion of public debt are not debtors, while the top 5% have never been wealthier.

This all happened because there has been 45 years of ever increasing systematic propaganda that polices and actions meant to support the common person were bad in favor of policies and actions to support the consolidation of power and wealth. And now, giving the country exactly what it wanted, we have reached a point where power is so concentrated that those not in the billionaire class are going to see their standard of living fall right off the chart.

All one has to do is look at the current "Big Beautiful Bill" - what will common American's get out of that bill?

Less healthcare, fewer government day to day services, a reduced investment in our common future and infrastructure, less investment in education, policies that continue to power our nation with a technology that is more than 100 years old, all for a small pittance of a tax cut that won't even make up for the additional cost of carrying all that debt.

Now here comes the worst part, I don't think many Americans understand what is going to happen next. Next year, when Trump fills the Fed with his new nominees, they will lower interest rates and start printing money to help reduce the cost of servicing the debt. This will have a temporary benefit in that exporting American products will be cheap and importing will be more expensive. But it won't take long for foreign or even large US investors to realize that the return on their investments will fall behind as the dollar weakens. Everyone's homes will be come worth less, so will you bank account. The world will stop using the US as its safe harbor. In order to sell treasuries, the rates will be forced upward and we will begin to look like Germany pre WW1 and WW2. Along with all of this, I fully expect the same kinds of actions that you typically find in nations that find themselves in this economic cycle - they will start blaming economic problems on everyone else and our society will begin to crack under the strain. It will just reinforce the political situation we have today.

It isn't like the world hasn't seen these lessons before, they have.

And the difference between solving them and succumbing to them is when leaders and the public look in the. mirror and understand that we are the issue, every one of us. We are the ones who fail to have taken responsibility to our own actions.

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Apache's avatar

Hello Marston... We Shall See... Climate Change may be beyond Human Adaption to Support 9-Billion+ People... Mass UnEmployment, and Currency Destruction will Crush the Majority of People in the USA... I'm not a TechnoOptimist... I've noticed that as People have gotten OnLine more, Social-Norms, Health-Outcomes, and Politics have Deteriorated....

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Paula B.'s avatar

I would like to hear more about your statement that we may end up in a situation where being an American no longer confers any benefit. I am not challenging you. I would just like to know more about what you see as the benefit of being a citizen and what we're losing. Tx!

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Marston Gould's avatar

Paula I'm lucky enough to have known many relatives who were born quite some time ago. My grand parents and their siblings were all born around 1890-1910 and my great grandmother was still alive until I was 9 and she was born in 1855. That blows my mind given that that was 170 years ago. There perspective obviously informed mine.

They came from areas where economic or political challenges forced them to believe that coming to the United States offered them a better chance to prosper. They invested in their own education (two Phds, two masters and all college educated - even the women). They lived in locations that were a mix of native and immigrant born Americans at that time. There was a strong belief that hard word and application, learning to get along with others and being courteous of ones neighbors, no matter the differences could help you build a career and/or a business. While they all lived in difficult times (23 recessions and the depression from 1850-1950), not to mention 2 World Wars, there was optimism that if you participated in your local community, paid attention to what was going on in the world, that the United States would not only prosper but it would improve for everyone. My grandparents and great grandmother in particular talked about the 1920s and 30s and their clear understanding of how excesses led to the problems in the 30s - that ravaged the country - not only economically but from a stewardship perspective. There was a clear understanding that they were responsible each for how the country improved over time. They weren't complainers - and were far more focused on living within their means. They all knew that none of that would have been possible in the lands where they or their parents had arrived from. Those opportunities didn't exist.

Today, I think the US has become much like the nations that drove much of the patterns of large immigration from our origin through the 1950s. Unfortunately, what is different is that as a nation we now are much more likely to blame groups within our own society for the problems: bias against non-whites, women, immigrants, people with different perspectives of lifestyle - they are all easy targets. As long as the nation continues to focus on blaming rather than problem solving and overcoming challenges - and even allowing that to happen - the real value of our nation is disappearing. This is the primary characteristic that drove our nation - the desire to have the freedom to solve ones owns problems without an overbearing overlord. That same spirit is why the Union fought in 1860s, why Americans fought in WW1, 2 (and frankly the Revolutionary War too).

Now we are in an era where we no longer understand that the greatest difference between the United States and earlier nations was this Constitution that it had and the Bill of Rights - and the ability for real representative government to help steward our nation forward. Now there are many who believe our government is the problem. That's terrible - and in some regards true. It's true because government no longer sees its primary role as to improve the livelihoods of its every day citizens and provide a platform for them to do the same.

Now we are as likely to find that characteristic elsewhere than in the US, and with that it confers less of an importance in being American.

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jonnel covault's avatar

Yes, "the better chance to prosper" is slipping away... And the division between the 2 parties fractures communities. Also the war on facts and science by unethical pundits and our elected 'Representatives' throws in another whammy ... If we have elections people need to vote for candidates like Mamdani who are not shilling for status quo corporate interests. People and our planet must take priority.

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Paula B.'s avatar

Wow, Marston, thank you for this wonderful answer!!! I agree with much of what you say. My timeline is very similar to yours--my great-grandmother was still alive until I was five. She was born in 1872, so later than yours. My grandparents were born in the 1880s and 1890s. We didn't have PhDs in my family until my sister got one, but people worked hard and valued education. I think you're right about where the country went off track, more or less in the eighties. A weird way in which you can see the difference is by looking at Architectural Digest, of all things. The homes of celebrities in the fifties and sixties weren't all that fancy. Today, they're like palaces. The conspicuous consumption and the greed (and the accompanying insecurity) have exploded. People look outward for validation, and most people seem not to look for meaning at all (I’m exaggerating to make a point). And of course, the greed and the disrespect for government came at the same time thanks to Reagan and his moral bankruptcy. So yes, we no longer respect government, we no longer value education, we no longer hang together. Until you wrote your post I didn't associate all this with citizenship, but I can see what you mean.

BTW, many years ago I worked for a company that had a close association with NASA. It was great! I loved working with the NASA people. Congratulations on your career there.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

The 2025 Superman movie is blowing up--in a good way--on social media. In an artistic way, it re-defines what being a good American and being an engaged citizen is about. Check it out...

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Susanna Askins's avatar

Nonsense! All the MAGAs had to do was open their eyes and read and think objectively. They voted for everything he's done - see project 2025, but they couldn't be bothered to read or reason. People who voted for Trump voted for his ethics and because he promised to be their "retribution." Their white supremacy beliefs are seen over and over again. I'm seeing them over and over again. I have friends who have been harassed because they are brown. I have a friend who has been stopped by the police several times for specious reasons (e.g. a taillight was out - it wasn't) and even handcuffed while his vehicle was searched because he is brown; this man is an American citizen and served in Iraq and Afghanistan until wounded!

The Democrats are definitely partly to blame. Absolutely. They have been defending the wealthy, etc, and certainly helped to create this situation. So did the Republicans! Not one party has actually had the best interests of the American citizens at heart - this is a CAPITALIST society and government. However, with the Democrats you at least had something to work with. Now we have an evil, psychotic degenerate and his colleagues running our country.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

Susanna, have you noticed how others sharing how much they hate X, Y or Z receive few likes and comments?

Is what you want for everything to go back in time to the 1980s?

Can you imagine Zohran Mamdani as an example and harbinger of a new way forward?

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Democracy Defender's avatar

Excellent piece! The Democratic Party has been captured and those benefiting are scared of being replaced, which is what Corbin is exposing as necessary.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

Exactly.

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Tom High's avatar

We can’t fix anything until we overrule the SCOTUS litany of precedent saying that 1) corporations are people, and 2) money is speech.

HJR-54; legislation for the We The People Amendment.

Info here: MoveToAmend.org

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

In my opinion, you couldn't be more wrong. Two Univ. of Kansas professors researched and published who votes for Donald Trump: "The Anger Games: Who Voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Election, and Why?" published in the Feb. 2018 edition of the peer-reviewed journal, "Critical Sociology." They support Trump's racist agenda. How have the oligarchs managed to sucker in working class people to vote against their own best economic interests? Thomas Frank, "What's the Matter with Kansas?" (2004) Fox and the rest spew out the wedge issues: abortion, gay and women's rights advocates, immigrants, etc. And Heather Cox Richardson, How the South Won the Civil War," 2020.

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John Whitehead's avatar

You're part of the problem, Mr. Sutherland. You sound smart and learned, but you're nothing but a parrot for the status quo interests.

Open your eyes and stop dwelling on the culture war issues that you've been trained to endlessly repeat. Look at the data that reflect straight up answers to straight up querstions about real issues - eg, healthcare, housing, education, food security.

In fact, look at the answers that a large majority of Americans offer when asked about the underlying policies that affect those real issues. See what they have to say about money in politics. Look at their attitudes towardfs reforming the Supreme Court. About more progressive and fairer taxation.

Your "conventional wisdom" has enabled the manipulation of the US electorate by both parties, to the benefit of no one except for the rich and powerful.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

Just what is my "conventional wisdom?"

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

Richard, I liked your post. I think the lack of a final paragraph where you state your conclusion--and perhaps--your prescription for change--would clarify you to commenters here.

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VermontRobbyPorter's avatar

I think the racism thing is oversold. Sure there are a bunch of racists, but focusing on that misses the point. Corbin is right. Americans elected Obama twice, and he was an aloof, intellectual, black man with the middle name Hussein, but he got elected because he promised Hope and Change. He didn't deliver the change and so people tried the opposite, racist, crude white guy.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

Obama rescued us from the brink of a Great Depression. He got tens of millions of people health insurance. Obama did deliver the change. We make a mistake in not realizing how deep and wide the white nationalist (KKK) element is. Trump won on a platform of racism. "The Anger Games: Who Voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 Election, and Why?" published in the Feb. 2018 edition of the peer-reviewed journal "Critical Sociology." Researchers are two Univ. of Kansas professors. Racism, misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia are at the core of their support for Trump.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

Electing Obama mobilized and invigorated the racists. I stay with the study by the two Univ. of Kansas professors and my own experience. Those who are racists and those with relatively minimal critical thinking skills have fallen to the propaganda spewed out by Fox, OAN, Newsmax, a large number of newspapers and radio stations. Fundamentally, racism and white Christian Protestant nationalism carry the day. Our schools failed miserably in teaching critical thinking skills to our students along with government and history. But, for someone to vote for a man who attempted to overthrow a free and fair election and not realize that if given even more power he would destroy the process is naive, stupid and largely motivated by their racism.

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Elizabeth J. Odell's avatar

I think it’s both.

I think it unearthed latent bigotry -and- that the racism is “oversold” quoting commentator VermontRobbyPorter, above.

Not receiving the change and feeling they were promised and sold “hope” unearthed a lot of anger, stress, impatience and being labeled a “basket of déplorables” added tinder ti the embers.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

Hillary was correct - they are a basket of deplorables. Why did Hillary lose? Put a whole lot of blame on James Comey, the bastard. I think that he will be seen as a major contributor to the success of the MAGA power grab, along with Chief Justice John Roberts of the Supreme Court. Roberts graduated from Harvard Law 6 years after me. The idea that some of us got our Liberalism from "elite Ivy League" schools is BS. Roberts is a principal architect for wrecking our democracy: Citizens United as well as Shelby County vs. Holder. A travesty.

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VermontRobbyPorter's avatar

In my experience with people who voted for Trump, they are not particularly racist, they are more or less indifferent to racism, you can judge that indifference as you will, but I don't think it is a huge motivator for most people. People's lives are unstable, economically precarious, lonely, and they are inundated with media which reinforces just how good, economically speaking some people have it. They want to share in that prosperity because, in a democracy, a healthy majority of the citixzens should share in the prosperity. And for years the average person hasn't, so they are willing to try anything, Obama, Trump, Sanders, going back Ross perot and John Andersen.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

Agree with your analysis. Can you imagine Zohran Mamdani as an example and harbinger of a new way forward?

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BUT WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW's avatar

Yes we have plenty of Racism, but the majority of Americans are NOT racists. I agree with Corbin.

It's all about the money. Momma, may she rest peacefully forever, said; you catch more bees with honey, than vinegar, and with money you get honey. I'm becoming a substack.com Podcaster hopefully by next week, and I have a mandate for America;

🇺🇸WE THE PEOPLE DECLARE THAT; AMERICA BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE 🇺🇸

We are the rightful owners. The government is our employee. And justice is long overdue.

We, the People of the United States of America, hereby declare that:

· WE WILL IMPEACH AND CONVICT TRUMP & VANCE!

· The government is not our ruler, but our employee — hired, funded, and directed by us, the sovereign citizens of America.

· For far too long, that employee has acted against our will, against our interests, and in service to corporate and financial masters who have bought the law, corrupted the courts, and captured our democracy.

· The fruits of our labor have been stolen, our families buried in debt, our bodies broken by stress, and our dreams deferred — all the while; a corrupted government, protected by corrupted attorneys, enriched its donors, protected its cronies, and silenced its critics.

· We have been denied the most basic human guarantees: Free health, Free education, housing, and dignity — not because we can’t afford them, but because greed & corruption has stood in the way.

Today, We the People Say:

✅ We are the owners of this nation — not banks, not billionaires, not politicians and not the corrupted attorneys.

✅ The American government is our employee, and our Public Servants will serve us, or be fired, or indicted, convicted and imprisoned.

✅ We grant ourselves the bonus we were always owed.

• Free health Medicare for all, free total dental care, & all prescriptions are 100% free. No more Insurance companies, no more HMO’s, no more PPO’s, no more deductibles, no more co-pays. No Insurance company employee will lose their jobs; they can all work for the free Medicare Health system.

• Free education for all from preschool through 12th grade, including universities and technical schools, but no private or religious childcare, preschool, K -12th grades, shall be paid with government funds. Government funds will pay for Childcare for those needing financial assistance, especially the poorest families from birth until 18 years of age, and open 24/7.

• No more Income Taxes if you earn less than $1,000,000.00. No I.R.S. agent will lose their job.

• Unconscionable Debt-free lives.

• A stable home and no property taxes on our personal residences.

• A living wage for a reasonable decent life. We support Unions 100%.

• Time to raise and care for our children, to care for our elders, to care for the children, to care for the poor, to care for the middle class, to protect the rich as well, to care for our sick, and to care for our Great Veterans.

• Equal rights for everyone. We are a secular Nation. You have the Right to worship your religion, or not believe in a religion, this is a must for America to Prevail as a Democratic Country, with a Democratic Government.

• A Woman’s body belongs to the Woman; The Woman, and only the Woman makes every decision about her body.

• Control of our own future & spread our happiness and prosperity to the World!

• Like China, America will print our money with No National Debt = No Deficit & we will retire The Federal Reserve Banking Act. America will print all the money necessary to keep our Democracy free and prosperous and keep the U.S. dollar valuable and dependable worldwide.

• If an Immigrant is in the USA illegally, and if they have no weapons or violence in their history, we must allow them to apply for asylum or citizenship. For over 70 years our Government allowed and caused the immigration issue to become uncontrollable. Humanely & practicable, this is our best solution. Get caught coming over the border illegally now, means 1 year detention, then immediate deportation and no hearing.

✅ And we say never again will we be ruled by fear, trapped by excessive debt, or sold off to the highest bidder.

This is not revolution — this is our reward for developing a great Democracy and our hard work.

This is not utopia — this is justice.

This is not theory — this is what happens when the people remember they are the sovereign power in a free nation.

We are not asking.

We are not pleading.

We are restoring what is ours.

And we will never give it back.

AMERICA; FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE…..

FOR OUR PEOPLE, BY OUR PEOPLE, OF OUR PEOPLE…..

I’m becoming a Podcaster on substack.com to give my point of views about solutions to all the ills of our American civilization as I recognize them today. My plan is to enroll every American voter by explaining to them in that together we can elect leaders that will make the laws that we as American citizens want equally for all, and to stop printing money and creating a stupid and unnecessary National Debt which = a National Deficit, approaching 40 trillion dollars, that benefited and still benefits the corrupted Federal Reserve Bankers of America and their co-conspirators in the biggest fraud the world has ever known, our National Debt / National Deficit!

We need everyone to just believe in that our new path is possible and doable for Liberty, Equality, Justice, Freedom and Prosperity for all! Just America as little as 10 minutes a day doing something to explain to other Americans that Our United States of America will truly be equal and prosperous for everyone. Your vote is our heartbeat that keeps America alive, so we all benefit, thrive and reach the top of the mountain together…….

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Erica Etelson's avatar

Thomas Frank lamented the efficacy of wedge issues but racism wasn't one of them. Also, at the end of the book and in subsequent books, he emphasizes that Dems could avoid this problem by doing the kinds of New Deal style things Corbin is calling for here.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

The evidence shows Corbin is NOT wrong at all.

If you look at the credible polls on major ISSUES such as party cheer leading (BOTH Biden and Trump parties) for the Israeli genocide, universal health care, creation of a massive ICE army to police Americans in their streets and homes and terrorize dissenters, endless fighting of undeclared wars, equal rights for women, creating fair election maps & curtailment of gerrymanderiing & voter suppression, kidnapping and deporting that bypasses legal hearings—THE CITIZENS are overwhelmingly opposed to what the ruling class is doing through BOTH political parties and using ruling-class corporate media to promote the fantasy that citizens want what these parties are selling. They DO NOT.

The two cartel parties have been steadily losing members for a decade, while REGISTERED Independents have outgrown the parties. Look it up. You can't have people opposed to the major policies the two parties are inflicting on the people and claim the people really support the parties doing that. To maintain such an opinion clearly does not use evidence, which is the essential trait of critical thinking.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

I am in Texas right now where extreme right-wing Christian nationalism reigns supreme. Abortion is a major issue and the Republicans own it lock, stock and barrel. Racism is a huge factor across all the red states. The Democrats have failed, IMO, to fight hard for a new New Deal. Starting with Reagan, the oligarchs have used the media to sucker ordinary folks to vote against their best interests using the wedge issues. Trump was smart enough to capture the racist vote, which grew after Obama's election. If the Democrats are to regain power, they need to sell a new New Deal. The $37+ trillion national debt will almost guarantee that Americans in their 30's, 40's and 50's will not get Social Security or Medicare.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

The rank and file party operatives are not the rank and file party members. Richard, I think that you are conflating the two.

Mamdami is a rank & file candidate, and the Democratic Party operatives are furious and scared sh--less of it. The two parties are controlled by a wealthy ruling class as a cartel. Their operatives work to prevent change.

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/zohran-mamdani-democratic-socialists-campaign-new-york-city-dsa?publication_id=2510348&post_id=168018060&isFreemail=false&r=rdp7&triedRedirect=true

https://www.dropsitenews.com/i/168018060/what-works-in-new-york-primary-the-democrats

"The successful campaigns of New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and New York State Senator Julia Salazar would demonstrate proofs of concept for these premises, creating a playbook for future grassroots campaigns including Mamdani’s."

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

I think that you are correct about Mamdami and Ocasio-Cortez and their message. Where Mamdami goes off track, IMO, is when he labels himself like Bernie, as a Democratic Socialist. They're wrong. They're not Socialists. What they are are Pragmatic Capitalists, in line with the Scandinavian countries. The Democratic leaders need to be coached on how to sell. Trump and the MAGA Republican politicians have run the national debt up to where it will soon be $40 trillion. What that means for those in their 30's, 40's and 50's is that they are not going to get Social Security and Medicare. Their senior lives will be difficult and unpleasant. They'll probably go broke. What to do? Reinstall the New Deal. The woman responsible for our having Social Security and Workers' Compensation, Frances Perkins, had this theory of government, essentially putting into practice Jesus' command regarding the least of these: "The people are what matter to government, and a government should aim to give all the people under its jurisdiction the best possible life." ALL the people. If the U.S. population were only 3.4 million people, we wouldn't have 900,000 people with net worths of $10 million or more and we wouldn't have 902 billionaires, but because we are 340 million people we have people with that money. They couldn't have done it without us. We need health care, housing, education, employment, security and more. We earned it. Stop the wealthy from stealing from us.

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Bruce Dickson's avatar

The phrase I hope catches on is "small business socialist" I think it comes from David Dayen of The Prospect

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Tom High's avatar

Sanders is no pragmatic capitalist. That would be an Elizabeth Warren.

The Scandinavian countries are social(ist) democracies, which have capitalist components. But all are under threat from the cancer that is capitalism.

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Richard Sutherland's avatar

Definitely the Scandinavian countries (Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden) are not socialist in the textbook definition of socialism. Instead, they are what I call pragmatic capitalists, i.e., they have strong safety nets and social programs. Socialism is where the state owns or controls the means of production. By contrast, we are an oligarchy where the wealthy (through propaganda outlets) control both politics and the economy.

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Tom High's avatar

Heather Cox Richardson, bless her heart, is part of the problem. Great at history, clueless in her belief that pragmatic incrementalism, via the Democratic Party, is the answer.

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Ed Nuhfer's avatar

After the Biden administration insisted the rank and file get in line and cheer lead a Zionist genocide, with their stooges labeling all as "antisemitic" who would not get in line, HCR hardly mentions Israel or the ongoing ethnic cleansing. I subscribed to her Substack for the history, but the Letters from an American has become increasingly a Democratic Party operatives' propaganda site and less a site history. It's sad.

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Tom High's avatar

Yep. Most of her subscribers are of the Vote Blue No Matter Who ilk. Drove me nuts. Heather basically parroting the imperial line of Butcher Blinken and Genocide Joe in the foreign policy arena was the final straw for me.

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

This is what you get when "more money" is the driving force. Intelligence and research and proper planning for the benefit of all don't have a chance when greed and ego are in control.

Pitiful. The Democratic Party has received its last contribution from me. There are a few good people trying to turn things around, but I fear it is a lost cause.

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Randy Stakeman's avatar

I have been saying this for years. The question is how to get from here to real change.

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PRINTING OUR NATIONAL BUDGETS MONEY WITH NO DEBT ATTACHED

Now consider that America will print all the money it needs, to give the American people what they deserve and worked so hard for. The greedy rich, and not all the rich are greedy, and our corrupted elected officials and their criminal minded attorneys, have robbed us Americans of so, so much money, joy and good health care.

We will eliminate The Federal Reserve Banking System, make out U.S. Treasury our National Bank and print all the money we need to take care of all of our American People's needs, like free heath care, free dental care, free prescriptions, for all, with no Insurance companies involved in our health care system, and no HMO's and no PPO's, no co-pays, no deductibles. The American people have been neglected and robbed for far too long, which allowed the rich to get unconscionably rich at our expense, so now it is pay back time for all Americans to not have to worry and suffer all the time over never having enough money for a decent stress fee life.

From what I have gathered the Chinese have printed all the money they needed to fund a better life for all of China people, and this has funded most of their tremendous growth and world class achievements. The Chinese only receive 30% of their income from their exports, and everything else has come from printing their money debt free, by loaning it to their state banks which they basically own and control.

Americans are going to take back the control of our own Government from the greedy rich, our corrupted elected officials and their criminal minded attorneys, that have robbed us Americans of so, so much money, joy and good health care.

We are not looking to harm the greedy rich for their past indiscretions, but our corrupted elected officials and their law-breaking attorneys is another story.

In addition, the rich making over the $1,000,000.00 annual income tax threshold will pay a small percentage of their earnings in personal income taxes. Anyone earning less than $1,000,000.00 will pay no personal income taxes.

As far as Inflation is concerned, we will switch the roles of most of the I.R.S. agents to oversee the price controls that are needed to stop Inflation, and from the greediest of the rich from unnecessarily raising prices just to increase net profits, which will not be tolerated, hence oversight will see to it that it will not happen. We still want our businesses to always make a fair and decent profit, but price gouging is prohibited.

This is only a small portion of my mandate for America, and everyone is invited to suggest better ways to save America. We are all here to live in peace and prosper together.

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sean's avatar

When you print more money the value of the money decreases. Unless you(the US) are the primary currency that all others depend on, i.e buy our Treasury notes. When there are no buyers is one way that paradigm fails.

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If we printed the money why do we loan it out? You know we can just print it and run the Government to help us all in America and have no National Debt which = the Deficit. Why do we need buyers? Just so the Bankers can become trillionaires by getting interest on our backs, and giving us a National Debt, no logic to this at all....think!!

🇺🇸WE THE PEOPLE DECLARE THAT; AMERICA BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE 🇺🇸

We are the rightful owners. The government is our employee. And justice is long overdue.

We, the People of the United States of America, hereby declare that:

· WE WILL IMPEACH AND CONVICT TRUMP & VANCE!

· The government is not our ruler, but our employee — hired, funded, and directed by us, the sovereign citizens of America.

· For far too long, that employee has acted against our will, against our interests, and in service to corporate and financial masters who have bought the law, corrupted the courts, and captured our democracy.

· The fruits of our labor have been stolen, our families buried in debt, our bodies broken by stress, and our dreams deferred — all the while; a corrupted government, protected by corrupted attorneys, enriched its donors, protected its cronies, and silenced its critics.

· We have been denied the most basic human guarantees: Free health, Free education, housing, and dignity — not because we can’t afford them, but because greed & corruption has stood in the way.

Today, We the People Say:

✅ We are the owners of this nation — not banks, not billionaires, not politicians and not the corrupted attorneys.

✅ The American government is our employee, and our Public Servants will serve us, or be fired, or indicted, convicted and imprisoned.

✅ We grant ourselves the bonus we were always owed.

• Free health Medicare for all, free total dental care, & all prescriptions are 100% free. No more Insurance companies, no more HMO’s, no more PPO’s, no more deductibles, no more co-pays. No Insurance company employee will lose their jobs; they can all work for the free Medicare Health system.

• Free education for all from preschool through 12th grade, including universities and technical schools, but no private or religious childcare, preschool, K -12th grades, shall be paid with government funds. Government funds will pay for Childcare for those needing financial assistance, especially the poorest families from birth until 18 years of age, and open 24/7.

• No more Income Taxes if you earn less than $1,000,000.00. No I.R.S. agent will lose their job.

• Unconscionable Debt-free lives.

• A stable home and no property taxes on our personal residences.

• A living wage for a reasonable decent life. We support Unions 100%.

• Time to raise and care for our children, to care for our elders, to care for the children, to care for the poor, to care for the middle class, to protect the rich as well, to care for our sick, and to care for our Great Veterans.

• Equal rights for everyone. We are a secular Nation. You have the Right to worship your religion, or not believe in a religion, this is a must for America to Prevail as a Democratic Country, with a Democratic Government.

• A Woman’s body belongs to the Woman; The Woman, and only the Woman makes every decision about her body.

• Control of our own future & spread our happiness and prosperity to the World!

• Like China, America will print our money with No National Debt = No Deficit & we will retire The Federal Reserve Banking Act. America will print all the money necessary to keep our Democracy free and prosperous and keep the U.S. dollar valuable and dependable worldwide.

• If an Immigrant is in the USA illegally, and if they have no weapons or violence in their history, we must allow them to apply for asylum or citizenship. For over 70 years our Government allowed and caused the immigration issue to become uncontrollable. Humanely & practicable, this is our best solution. Get caught coming over the border illegally now, means 1 year detention, then immediate deportation and no hearing.

✅ And we say never again will we be ruled by fear, trapped by excessive debt, or sold off to the highest bidder.

This is not revolution — this is our reward for developing a great Democracy and our hard work.

This is not utopia — this is justice.

This is not theory — this is what happens when the people remember they are the sovereign power in a free nation.

We are not asking.

We are not pleading.

We are restoring what is ours.

And we will never give it back.

AMERICA; FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE…..

FOR OUR PEOPLE, BY OUR PEOPLE, OF OUR PEOPLE…..

I’m becoming a Podcaster on substack.com to give my point of views about solutions to all the ills of our American civilization as I recognize them today. My plan is to enroll every American voter by explaining to them in that together we can elect leaders that will make the laws that we as American citizens want equally for all, and to stop printing money and creating a stupid and unnecessary National Debt which = a National Deficit, approaching 40 trillion dollars, that benefited and still benefits the corrupted Federal Reserve Bankers of America and their co-conspirators in the biggest fraud the world has ever known, our National Debt / National Deficit!

We need everyone to just believe in that our new path is possible and doable for Liberty, Equality, Justice, Freedom and Prosperity for all! Just America as little as 10 minutes a day doing something to explain to other Americans that Our United States of America will truly be equal and prosperous for everyone. Your vote is our heartbeat that keeps America alive, so we all benefit, thrive and reach the top of the mountain together…….

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Richard Keller's avatar

We are living in desperate times. Thye Post Truth Era where denial has reached the mainstream. People are 'terrified' more than hopeless; terrified of the change that must be made.

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Sean I Ahern's avatar

Tell it to Ocasio Cortez who really dropped the ball by not demanding a vote on Medicare for all.

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Publius Poplicola's avatar

If the Democrat Party, of various splinter factions, is fed up with the status quo, why don’t these people support term limits? Won’t this reflect the change that is truly in the organization?

https://open.substack.com/pub/ppoplicola2/p/federalist-92-term-limits?r=5jp17j&utm_medium=ios

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Vivi Survivor's avatar

It’s about voting for their racism, pure and simple. Anything else is just a bunch of 🐂 💩 and gaslighting.

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